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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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It's been a while since I've been to this thread. But, I thought they were divorcing. This was confirmed by Lloyd, and others, I thought.

This is why Evans is known to be crafty with his words. For someone with a decent command of the English language, he intentionally left things vague. For example, after being caught trying to enter a London dating event, Evans countered that they were “separated, not yet divorced”. The way this was worded was meant to convey the appearance that they were getting divorced but this is not actually what he said. “Not yet divorced” could mean that a divorce is planned. It can also mean that the ultimate decision to take the step of divorce has not been made yet.

Now look back to the context of his announcement. He was caught on a dating site when his last communication on the matter was that he was trying to save his marriage. This is how he operates. He said what he felt he needed to say to fight the accusation he was cheating on his wife again. He effectively took his wedding ring off to provide an excuse for his behaviour.

Now look to his 2-3 week holiday on the coast in late June early July. He only made mention of spending it with his girls, but Dijana was there. I’d be betraying a few confidences by telling you how I know. I also seriously doubt she’s leaving those girls with him for that long of a period. One of the final pics he posted of that trip was of him and the girls with his wedding ring clearly visible. Only reason he puts it back on is to send her a message it wasn’t over for him or perhaps it’s not over and he finally got his wish of being allowed in an open marriage where he decided when he’s with her or not.

He’s not letting her go and is pulling out all the tricks that manipulative people do when they wish to coerce others to bend to their will. She has fallen for it for years and evidently is still falling for it. As much as it’s been said that Lloyd never changed his JW mindset, it’s abundantly clear that in many ways Dijana still has the mentality of a pioneer sister who wanted a husband and family.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

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as long as Dijana wants to keep Evans as her husband, there’s nothing more we can do

This isn’t about saving Dijana. Same reason we aren’t here to “save JWs”. They either get it or they don’t. You can bring a horse to water but cannot force it to drink. If all that has happened still isn’t enough for her to wake up, then seriously, fuck her. She deserves Evans and all the consequences which follow.

Dijana gave all those private emails, screenshots and photos to Kim and PB, made calls to exJWs when Lloyd left her, and this was before Evans made the livestream about how he couldn’t control his penis with the exception being when he’s with his wife who did not satisfy him. He humiliated her in front of thousands of people. It’s as if she told multiple parties her house was on fire and when advised to get out immediately, she hung up the phone saying she’ll think about it. And “oh yeah, I spoke to Lloyd and the house really isn’t on fire, I’m just smelling smoke. All good here!” If she stays with him then her husband was right about one thing: Dijana Evans is a head-fuck.

She has a tonne of financial reasons to stay in that marriage and I’m not buying that she’s ready to move on into a life of poverty with two young girls and two elderly parents to care for. That’s a tight situation she is in, but:

IT IS NOT THE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY OF VULNERABLE FORMER JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES TO TAKE CARE OF THE EVANS FAMILY & HER PARENTS BY CONTINUING TO SEND A BLANK CHEQUE EVERY MONTH TO LLOYD EVANS.

The grift has been exposed and will continue to be exposed. That’s what we’re doing here. He can make all the videos he wants but the grift ends here in 2022.

By the end of the year, if not sooner.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Excellent video about the trauma bond. I believe it’s an exceptionally worse one for her being that she’s stuck between two worlds - her JW parents and exJWs - all of whom have strong feelings about her husband one way or another. She seems to have no secular friends as Kim alluded to.

Lloyd wants her to continue as his titular wife and mother of his children, but it’s clear he wants sex elsewhere whether it’s through sex workers or women he can find through dating apps and events. “Open marriage” could mean different things to different people, but in Lloyd’s definition the sex with her is either limited or non-existent.

So he does his thing and at a certain interval or if he feels she’s pulling away, he swoops back in and does something nice for them and intended to bring back memories of good times in the past. Their family holiday last month was an example of that. He made sure to do things as a foursome and probably put things into his daughter’s minds such as “isn’t it great to have daddy back? If it’s OK with mummy, daddy would like to come stay at home for awhile to be with his family”.

Lloyd knows he’s a hideous looking fatbody neckbeard and likely has plenty of online rejections and post first date ghosting. It irritates him to no end that Dijana is the best he could have ever hoped for and the pickings are going to get worse as he edges towards 50.

It’s going to be difficult for her to break this cycle. Like jumping into cold water, it’s best just to jump in instead of testing the water with your toes. But it needs to be done and she should understand this by now. She can’t continue to let him back in thinking it’s going to be different this time.

I read those emails he sent to her. I’ve seen his attempts at dating. She has to have the self esteem of a bug right now and she really shouldn’t. It’s him who should be worried about his prospects outside the marriage, not her. The sooner she understands this the better it will be for her and her girls.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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I may be misunderstanding you, but I thought Croatia was her home country. So wouldn't that make him the geographically and financially isolated one, giving her the upper hand?

When he was dependent upon her translation work, she had the upper hand and it probably bothered him to no end.

But what I mean is the common assumption is that they live at her parent’s home IN Sisak. But they actually live in a small village outside Sisak. He at least up until recently lived in central Zagreb. She has two small children to care for and I’m not even sure she has a car or at least a dependable one. Being that neither of them have worked a secular job in years, it is Lloyd that holds the strings on any finances they have with his grift.

Approaching 40 with two small children in an isolated location is not a desirable situation to be in no matter how you look at it. It’s his only means by which he holds any sway over her and I’m sure he’s moved all the funds into his personal account now they are “separated”.

Ggg

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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For what it’s worth I don’t think he’s permanently moved out. His msg from the Zagreb group said he had the flat until the 20th of last month and didn’t sound permanent. My guess is it was a trial separation from 1 April until the end of June.

For him to pay the rent on a flat in central Zagreb, plus a new spot for the bunker after losing over 400 patrons is quite a risky expansion.

I strongly feel his wife is very much struggling with his mood swings and ever changing plans. For someone that isolated both geographically, financially and emotionally don’t underestimate his continued sway over her.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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He is quitting the bunker, though he insists he’s not being kicked out but it’s the mould and the moisture.

Says him and Tibor are looking for a larger industrial sized space to rent. Thanks the Patrons again because they’re paying for it, not him.

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Michael Jackson Jehovah's Witness Thriller

by researcher1010 in

i'm a reporter working on a series about michael jackson.

part of this series will look at his life as a jehovah's witness and his relationship to the faith.

i've already spoken to a few ex-witnesses and one elder who have explained jw 101 beliefs and teachings.

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The turning point for MJ was when LaToya was disfellowshiped. The elders came down hard on him to cut all association as he was involved in her fledgling music career. Michael refused to cut association and when the elders weren’t dropping it, he decided to disassociate. It was supposedly after confiding in Marlon Brando about what was happening and Marlon told him he didn’t need that kind of toxicity in his life.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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FYI - that Leah Remini podcast was recorded in late 2021 before Lloydgate. He refers to IICSA as an current thing and references an article he wrote for the National Secular Society in August 2021 as recent.

Still: He goes into the pedophile database, ARC and the two witness rule just minutes in. He also managed to criticise the organisation’s stance towards not allowing women to divorce unless it’s scriptural, whilst at the same time essentially forcing an open marriage on his wife and leaving her and the kids during the holidays because she backed out of it.

Excellent choice of podcast guest, Leah.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

It’s all in the Reluctant Apostate too. Father is Jonathan - a man he despised as a chronically unemployed moron. Mother is Lesley who was married twice before Jonathan, who died of cancer and he viewed as inheriting his intelligence from. Sister is Hannah - an emotionally damaged person per Lloyd’s account.

He rips into his father so harshly that it’s difficult to find much sympathy when he waxes on about how he won’t see his granddaughters. If he’s as bad of a man as Lloyd suggests then what’s the huge issue here? I also find it damaging to young children to tell them their grandfather refuses to see them. It’s only half the story anyway because Lloyd insists he sees him as well in order to see the kids.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

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How/when/where did Lloyd and Dijana meet and get married? I just wonder where that fits in.

From the pdf.. er I mean "digital copy purchased through Amazon" of TRA, he was virtually seeing an American on study in the Midlands. She totally wanted to fuck him and they arranged for a weekend at his dad's place when he was out of town but Lloyd "pulled out". This was in early 2006. In June 2006 he travelled to Croatia at Miroslav's invitation. Miroslav was a Croatian attendee at MTS School. He spoke of fantasising about meeting a "Croatian girl" during this MTS reunion with Miroslav. Along with 9 other brothers from MTS, they flew into Zagreb and somehow Lloyd was the first one who made it into Sisak. An English-speaking brother there arranged for him to give a talk in English at the local congregation even though few could understand it. Here's how they met per the Reluctant Apostate:

At the end of the meeting, a pretty young girl with dark eyes and raven hair approached me. Her flawless features reminded me of the singer Katie Melua. In perfect English, she thanked me for my talk and said she had enjoyed it. “By the way, I’m Deeyana,” she said.

Also this:

In my mind, I was Adam in the Garden of Eden— and Dijana was my Eve. I had discovered Dijana was a pioneer who was very highly spoken of by the local brothers, which ticked a major box on my list of requirements. I pursued her relentlessly with my camcorder, trying to get her attention. As you might expect, this paparazzi approach did little to endear me to her. To further complicate matters, it appeared I was not the only one smitten. A couple of the more handsome specimens from my class were moving in and trying their luck.

Lloyd and two other brothers were in open competition over Dijana's affections. In the weeks following his return to England phone calls and emails were exchanged which spawned a relationship. He convinced her to relocate to England as an au pair. After 6 months of dating (roughly July 2006 to January 2007) he proposed with a cheap silver ring he could barely afford after rowing her out to the middle of Grasmere Lake in the Lake District.

They were married at the registry office in Malinska, Croatia on 14 July 2007. They had a Witness only gathering on a hotel balcony following the vows. Their honeymoon was driving back to the UK with stops in Venice, the Swiss Alps and Paris.